[English] OS-9 L1 v1.2

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Re: [English] OS-9 L1 v1.2

Mensajepor gflorez » 23 Jul 2017 10:14

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If the thread is marked as English, you all should write in that language to aid Malik to better understand the commentaries.

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Re: [English] OS-9 L1 v1.2

Mensajepor jltursan » 23 Jul 2017 11:44

You're right, I've made some quick and dirty translations.

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Re: [English] OS-9 L1 v1.2

Mensajepor pser1 » 23 Jul 2017 18:58

gflorez escribió:If the thread is marked as English, you all should write in that language to aid Malik to better understand the commentaries.

same for me, sorry!
pere

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Re: [English] OS-9 L1 v1.2

Mensajepor malikto999 » 24 Jul 2017 09:57

gflorez escribió:If the thread is marked as English, you all should write in that language to aid Malik to better understand the commentaries.


Thanks for your concern!
But it's a significant thread, so I do not think you all need to write in English.
Direct translation from Spanish to Japanese is terrible, but I can understand the rough meaning by reading translation to English.
Of course, if you write in English, I am really saved.


jltursan escribió:Yes!, it's a very old version, 3.01 ...or at least it prints that version at boot. Do you have modern versions of Flex or OS-9 already dumped?


My FLEX is 3.11. OS-9 L1 is the same version as you.
You can refer to F-BASIC and other OS versions and screenshots on the following page.
http://www.mindspring.com/~thasegaw/rpcg/

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Re: [English] OS-9 L1 v1.2

Mensajepor ron » 24 Jul 2017 11:28

ようこそ malikto999 san, I didn't realize at first moment you were japanese, I am sorry not to was aware, anyway, Thank You very much for all your contributions, time and knowledge. It's really appreciated.

Since we started retrowiki.es, we have always taken very present the Fujitsu FM-7 and its Spanish counterpart, the Secoinsa FM-7, since it is the same machine.

With the knowledge and efforts of pser1, We have made many progress and all results very interesting, taking advantage of the 6809 and the 6309, we are learning and having fun.

私たちに加わってくれてありがとう

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Re: [English] OS-9 L1 v1.2

Mensajepor jltursan » 24 Jul 2017 17:52

malikto999 escribió:
jltursan escribió:Yes!, it's a very old version, 3.01 ...or at least it prints that version at boot. Do you have modern versions of Flex or OS-9 already dumped?


My FLEX is 3.11. OS-9 L1 is the same version as you.
You can refer to F-BASIC and other OS versions and screenshots on the following page.
http://www.mindspring.com/~thasegaw/rpcg/


As per version number, my Flex is indeed older!:

Imagen

...and I suppose it's not preserved as the oldest one (documented) is 3.11 and mine has nearly 60 files inside, clearly different from the pics in the page:

Imagen

I know very well the page you pointed me out; but sadly it doesn't have any download links of none of the portrayed operating systems :-(. So, do you have a disk image of your Flex 3.11 that you can share?

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Re: [English] OS-9 L1 v1.2

Mensajepor pser1 » 24 Jul 2017 23:31

pser1 escribió:Hi,
I have extracted from a CoCo disk virtual file, the binary files named BASIC09 and RUNB
Then I have added them to the FM-7 .d88 file named OS9L1V2 and have started the emulation ...
Apparently it works well in text mode ...
best regards
pere

I am sorry to say that this was a 'mirage' due to the fact that I copied BASIC09 from CoCo but without renaming it
So, when I called BASIC09, as the exe directory by default is cmds, the internal BASIC09 was executed and worked well.
After copying the CoCo file into cmds as BASIC09C, it fails starting with message
ERROR #207
Right now I don't remember what kind of error is this ... but for sure it doesn't work from CoCo to FM-7 whithout modifications ...
cheers
pere

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Re: [English] OS-9 L1 v1.2

Mensajepor malikto999 » 26 Jul 2017 10:44

jltursan escribió:I know very well the page you pointed me out; but sadly it doesn't have any download links of none of the portrayed operating systems :-(. So, do you have a disk image of your Flex 3.11 that you can share?


You can download it from here.
https://srv09.bitsend.jp/download/46326 ... bb441.html

Because there is a time limit, please be careful.

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Re: [English] OS-9 L1 v1.2

Mensajepor malikto999 » 26 Jul 2017 11:14

ron escribió:ようこそ malikto999 san, I didn't realize at first moment you were japanese, I am sorry not to was aware, anyway, Thank You very much for all your contributions, time and knowledge. It's really appreciated.

Since we started retrowiki.es, we have always taken very present the Fujitsu FM-7 and its Spanish counterpart, the Secoinsa FM-7, since it is the same machine.

With the knowledge and efforts of pser1, We have made many progress and all results very interesting, taking advantage of the 6809 and the 6309, we are learning and having fun.

私たちに加わってくれてありがとう


I am also thankful to you.
I can talk about FM-7 and am fun.
Muchas gracias!

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Re: [English] OS-9 L1 v1.2

Mensajepor jltursan » 26 Jul 2017 19:15

Imagen

(Real photo taken near of Tokyo's Kappabashi, It was an funny finding and cannot resist to take the pic :-))

I've been testing XM7 version until finding one with the option to insert wait states to floppy accesses. Your Flex image boots fine although I can't check what's inside, seems empty. When I execute "DIR 0" I only get "Not Found"; but I can clearly see other executables inside the .D77 image.
The size of the image is also strange, 473,776 bytes; the usual is 348,848 bytes -shock

I really need to find the way to dump my copy. The only weird thing I've found with my Flex 3.01 is that after some disk operations (remember that I'm doing this with a FM77AV and a 5.25" drive connected to it) it fails with "DRIVES NOT READY" and drives stop responding -shock -shock , maybe 3.01 is too old to work reliably with such Fujitsu model?

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Re: [English] OS-9 L1 v1.2

Mensajepor malikto999 » 27 Jul 2017 01:22

Since I used to live near Asakusa long ago, I often went to Kappabashi.

jltursan escribió:I've been testing XM7 version until finding one with the option to insert wait states to floppy accesses. Your Flex image boots fine although I can't check what's inside, seems empty. When I execute "DIR 0" I only get "Not Found"; but I can clearly see other executables inside the .D77 image.


This FLEX has no DIR command. So, to see the directory list, please use CAT or DSP command.

jltursan escribió:The size of the image is also strange, 473,776 bytes; the usual is 348,848 bytes -shock


The difference in image size is due to the gap between the tracks.There is no problem as D88 file format.
When creating a new disk with XM7, setting the F-BASIC user disk unchecked will result in a size of 473,776 bytes.

Does FLEX 3.01 boot on the FM-7 and 5.25" drive?

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Re: [English] OS-9 L1 v1.2

Mensajepor jltursan » 27 Jul 2017 07:28

This FLEX has no DIR command. So, to see the directory list, please use CAT or DSP command.


Oops :oops:
I didn't hink of DSP or CAT commands, I only tried with DIR, my 3.01 has this command!

Does FLEX 3.01 boot on the FM-7 and 5.25" drive?.


I've been booting it from 5.25", originally in the FM-7 and now in the FM77AV without problems. The only flaw is that "DRIVES NOT READY" after some time...

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Re: [English] OS-9 L1 v1.2

Mensajepor malikto999 » 28 Jul 2017 02:01

jltursan escribió:I've been booting it from 5.25", originally in the FM-7 and now in the FM77AV without problems. The only flaw is that "DRIVES NOT READY" after some time...


If you have time, can you run the following program?

10 INPUT"FLEX 3.01 DRIVE NO=",DRV
20 FIELD #0,128 AS A$
30 DUMMY$=DSKI$(DRV,0,3)
40 PRINT "VOLUME NAME=";MID$(A$,16,8)
50 PRINT "TRACKS=";ASC(MID$(A$,39,1))
60 PRINT "SECTORS=";ASC(MID$(A$,40,1))


Please boot F-BASIC with FM77AV, set the FLEX disk in the 5.25 '' drive and execute it.
It might be possible to copy the disk to a 3.5 inch drive in sector units.

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Re: [English] OS-9 L1 v1.2

Mensajepor jltursan » 28 Jul 2017 22:57

Mission accomplished!

FLEX301.png
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The key has been "The File Master", the backup mode of this tool has worked marvels and I've been able to transfer flawlessly all my software to 3.5" floppies, then reading them with DITT has been easy :-)
The only one that remains undumped is the Ada Soft Disk Copier that seems protected.

Here's the disk images package:

FM7_Pack.zip
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Some of them are quite interesting as the C for CP/M and the COMSOL BASIC compiler for FM-7, now we don't need to learn machine code the create great soft :-D

Enjoy!

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Re: [English] OS-9 L1 v1.2

Mensajepor malikto999 » 30 Jul 2017 04:21

jltursan escribió:Mission accomplished!

FLEX301.png CPM22.png
The key has been "The File Master", the backup mode of this tool has worked marvels and I've been able to transfer flawlessly all my software to 3.5" floppies, then reading them with DITT has been easy :-)
The only one that remains undumped is the Ada Soft Disk Copier that seems protected.

Here's the disk images package:

FM7_Pack.zip
Some of them are quite interesting as the C for CP/M and the COMSOL BASIC compiler for FM-7, now we don't need to learn machine code the create great soft :-D

Enjoy!


FLEX 3.01 is really interesting.
Looking at the directory list, there are no FM series specific files (FLEXFM8.SYS, FLEXFM7.SYS).
I think there is a possibility that this is a port of general purpose FLEX.

I did not know the COMSOL compiler.
Looking at the credits written on the source, it seems to be a compiler released by ASCII in Japan.
The grammar is similar to PASCAL

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Re: [English] OS-9 L1 v1.2

Mensajepor pser1 » 31 Jul 2017 12:08

jltursan escribió:I've been booting it (FLEX 3.01) from 5.25", originally in the FM-7 and now in the FM77AV without problems. The only flaw is that "DRIVES NOT READY" after some time...

I a getting angry with myself, damn it! -banghead
I am unable to boot / start FLEX301 nor can I boot FLEX311, so I must be doing something really wrong!
I have tried both disks on XM7 emulating a std FM-7 choosing "Files / Basic mode"
and later choosing "Files / DOS mode", none of them show a bit on the screen after pressing "F12" or "Alt+F12"

I start FM-7 with an F-Basic disk, that works well, then I insert any of the FLEX disks and try DOS, BOOT and nothing good happens (Syntax Error)
After both Resets (soft and hard) no response ... just the white square flashing top left

What is the exact procedure I should apply to get it started? -nb -nb
Thanks in advance
pere

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Re: [English] OS-9 L1 v1.2

Mensajepor jltursan » 31 Jul 2017 16:54

Check malikto999's post from 23 Jul 2017 03:48 in first page ;-)


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